Heresy of the Week: When Anti-Scientology Turns into Cruelty Against Scientologists

When I got out of Scientology and began exposing them on the Internet 17 years ago, it was because I had discovered how cruel that the leadership in the Church of Scientology had been to too many people. And I realized this had to be stopped.

And so, along with many others, at great risk to ourselves, we posted information on the Internet to ensure that their cruelty and their abuse would be exposed. I was fired from my job, had private investigators follow me and my family was threatened. All that is easily proven. A lot more happened that I can not prove came from Scientology.

At that time, in the late 1990’s and early 2000s, Marty Rathbun, Mike Rinder and David Miscavige, at the very top of Scientology, had been able to shudder most media companies into silence. During this period, Scientology was pretty much operating at their cruelest, and with impunity.

Even typing the word “Scientology” on the Internet got you fair gamed, let alone posting their confidential OT levels, and secret LRH orders to commit criminal acts.

As you know, there is very little honor among thieves, nor bloodless backsides among backstabbers. And so there was a great falling out between Marty, Mike and Dave. Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder, along with many other cruel Int Base Escapees, ended up out here on the wilds of the Internet and told – a few – salacious stories about the mutual cruelties and atrocities that they caused to themselves and to too many others while in positions of authority in the church of scientology.

This has been great to watch. There really can’t be a better outcome than to see these cultic abusers rip each other apart publicly as is happening now on the Internet, in the press, in the movies, and on TV.

But here’s the consequence: The major spectacle that they are all causing is bringing in all kinds of eyeballs. And the swarm of people who are gathering to engage in Scientology-watching is getting huge, and likely to get even more so.

It’s the dream we all hoped for.

But be careful what you hope for. This is coming with a cost. It’s a cost that deletes the very reason I became a critic in the first place: Anti-Scientology is becoming just as cruel as Scientology was.

Take this tweet for example:

This kind of behavior brings about the exact same reaction I had when I first learned about Scientology’s cruelty to people and left them to expose them on the Internet:


This tweet was sent from some Twitter entity named sunsetinyellow to GEMTHEWIT, who is a public Scientologist in England who is prominent on the Scientology Twitter, doing her best to try to defend her chosen religion against people she sees as engaging in religious persecution.

I’m having a hard time not seeing it her way with tweets like this.

When I commented that this tweet was the kind of cruelty that not one Ex-Scientologist I know ever wanted to have happen when we first started exposing them on the Internet so long ago, another anti-Scientology entity named “DICE” – who is a long time supporter of Tony Ortega’s Underground Bunker – tweeted this to me in response:

I feel just as betrayed and outraged now by this kind of cruel behavior from members of a group I thought I had belonged to as I did when I was a Scientologist and finally saw what they were doing back then.

This isn’t a better alternative to Scientology. We might as well all be Scientologists now, working to enforce the Tone Scale laws in courts on people below 2.0, or teaching LRH Fair Game techniques in public schools. That cruel society from Scientology would be no worse than this one – if this is how anti-Scientology is going to behave.

How many underground bunkerites will publicly condemn this tweet?

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It depends on how seriously you want to take an anonymous Fuck You on the internet to another anonymous poster. I doubt that the comment “sunsetinyellow” made to “GEMTHEWIT” left her weeping.

Claire Swazey

You doubt it? Well, I was a public CofS member on a forum just before I saw the light and decided to leave. And though I met many lovely people, I was also the recipient of posts similar to that and I did cry a few times.

Dr. Crowley

Considering that Alanzo misspelled the recipient’s Twitter handle in this posting, one has to question how sincere he is in “protecting” her or whether he ever had heard of her at all before becoming her “white knight.” It’s also interesting to note that months later, the recipient repeatedly posted screen grabs of this tweet, which many people saw, so apparently she wasn’t all that traumatized by it.


This kind of stuff makes Scientology look positively civilized.

Miss Tia

That reply isn’t surprising from ‘Dice’. I don’t know the person who tweeted the original tweet. Dice is a very rabid bunkerite. Their level of intensity, lack of empathy towards Scientologists–who weren’t on the bunker approved list, and inability to discuss things, made me avoid them. They were making themselves a force to be reckoned with around the time I left. Prior to that, they were almost sort of trollish. The turn around was surprising, but I knew I was leaving and didn’t bother to think about it.

I doubt any bunkerite would publicly condemn either tweet. If they would, why then they’d be attacked by the bunker. How could they denounce someone trying to ‘save’ a Scientology? How could they denounce ‘Dice’? How could they betray the bunker?

Telling someone to kill themselves because you don’t agree with their religion is shocking, sickening, and beyond cruel. How/why can someone CONDONE that?!?! How/why could someone do that in the first place?!? ::shudder:: I imagine there ARE bunkerites who disagree but are too fearful to speak out.

I’m so appalled at this. No matter your beliefs, this is not okay to say to someone.


” . . . doing her best to try to defend her chosen religion . . . ” LOL
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It’s “Heresy of the Week”, so someone MUST be burned at the stake. If Gem is retweeting her hate mail as Dr Crowley mentions, then she may be looking for sympathy and (financial?) support. Further investigation is needed. However, in order to ensure the evil is stamped out, maybe Gem, Sunset and Dice should all three be burned.


All Inquisitions need at least a token defender so I took on that role. Of course Alanzo as Chief Inquisitor remains the final Judge.

Taking another look, Sunset and Dice were pretty well burned so that’s adequate until next week. As Claire previously mentioned many a witchhunt hath been launched on the internet.

“kill yourself” is a rather lame troll comment. “burn in the fires of Hell” would have been more dramatic.

Thinking *About* scn is often as nutty as thinking *With* scn.


Hey Alanzo – I’m just taking the “Heresy of the Week” topic to put out some light satire. I’m not trying to downgrade the overall message.

I didn’t realize we were all supposed to be in therapy. (Here I go again)


About a week ago as I was falling asleep I got a brief emotional feeling and sense that any negative or hostile comments I’ve made on the blogs had no benefit to myself or anyone else.

Joe Pendleton

A tweet? Seriously? A freakin’ TWEET????

Cruelty against Scientologists? You’re punking us, right? CRUELTY!!!!

You have too much time on your hands. If you’re retired like me, start traveling, read more books, etc

But to get bent out of shape about CRUELTY to Scientologists!!!!

The people who would be doing that and have for 65 years now are OTHER Scientologists.

But I doubt they will be reading your blog. Too busy buying buildings with extorted money and “declaring” former loyal adherents. Which always turns out too be a big favor in the long run.


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