Mike Rinder Needs to Come Clean About What He Did to Gerry Armstrong & Others As Head of the Office of Special Affairs

This is the first in a series of videos by Gerry Armstrong, the most fair-gamed person in Scientology history, to Mike Rinder. This one is dated February 18th, 2018.

Here’s the 2nd, dated Feb 18th, 2018

Video Number 3, dated February 23rd, 2018

Video Number 4, dated February 25, 2018

Video Number 5, dated February 25, 2018

Video Number 6, dated February 26, 2018

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Eileen
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Eileen

Gerry Armstrong breaks my heart.
I’m not sure why he needs to keep the label on himself as a current victim. I see him more as an avenging angel. Armstrong reminds me of the Nazi hunters who scoured South America for war criminals.
This series by Gerry Armstrong destroys all claims that antiscientology “crimes” can be equated to Scientology (literal) crimes. There is no equivalence.
God Bless you Gerry, may you find peace, whether or not Marty Rinder tells his whole story.

John Doe
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John Doe

I watched as much as I could of the first video, maybe half of it. (I’m not big at watching videos, remember?)

While I think Gerry took a great deal of risk taking on the church, (in the days when doing so drew orders of magnitude higher fair-gaming than does now) in the pursuit of creating greater transparency about LRH’s past, I also see him now engaged in a dogged pursuit over something that might not have that great of a pay off for him.

Back in the day, Gerry was trying to tell the truth and because of it, he ran afoul of a monstrous organization that didn’t want that truth to see the light of day.

But what I see here is that he’s still spending a tremendous amount of effort for what? To have one guy, Mike Rinder, say “I’m sorry”? Admittedly, I didn’t watch more than about half of the first video, so maybe I completely missed that Gerry is wanting something else. (That might be an argument for editing—joke)

Will it make Gerry’s life suddenly better if he did receive such an apology? If so, I think Gerry may be assigning too much power over his own happiness to someone or something that is outside his sphere of control.

Gerry is a tremendously courageous guy, and because of him, I know things about LRH that I wouldn’t have known had Gerry not acted towards getting the truth out. But he’s also a bit of a tragic figure as well. I hope he is able to find peace and resolution in his life, whether or not Mike Rinder does what Gerry would like him to do.

marildi
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marildi

John Doe: “But what I see here is that he’s still spending a tremendous amount of effort for what? To have one guy, Mike Rinder, say ‘I’m sorry”?

It might say more about Gerry, and others who are expending a lot of effort in this pursusit, than it does about Mike not saying “I’m sorry.'”

I’m no big fan of Mike’s but I think he has already said he’s sorry, probably numerous times. I guess people want him to publicly chastise himself, which may say something about them, too. To my way of thinking, at a certain point it’s up to the individual to decide how he wants to work out his karma.

Richard
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John Doe – Above you wrote, “I’m not much on watching videos”. You probably know this but maybe someone else doesn’t. The settings tool can be used to speed up playback if desired.

John Doe
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John Doe

Thanks Richard. That is helpful information.

marildi
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marildi

I don’t utterly condemn him for it, but Gerry Armstrong was apparently not innocent of similar tactics to those of the IAS. As an example, in the book “Memoirs of a Scientology Warrior,” Marty describes a meeting between Gerry and various supposedly disaffected church members or former members who, while secretely taping the meeting, were feigning interest in a plan of Gerry’s and a number of high government agents (listed out on the tape) to execute a takeover of the church. Gerry wanted church members to go into church files and find evidence of illegalities. Mike Rinder, who was one of those at the meeting, stated that there really wasn’t any illegalities – at which point Gerry suggested that they (quoting from the book) “CREATE evidence of illegalities and plant them in files for the IRS and DoJ to find in a raid and use against church officials.”

That is an example of the “dirty tricks” type of mentality that Gerry himself was guilty of, according to Marty. But again, I don’t seriously condemn him because I’m sure he thought what he was doing was the greatest good – just like Mike Rinder did.

Richard
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This is from the AA Twelve Step Program.

(step) 8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.

9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.

10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.

The vast majority of scn-ists never did and still don’t harm anyone. Some knowingly and willingly did and some did so under the influence of the cult mindset. Making amends can be done in various ways.

Richard
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Some people want justice, some people want revenge, and some people just let it go. Everyone has a hobby horse. Mine is promoting the perils of overpopulation. The Pope won’t listen and still prohibits artificial birth control.

Human caused mass extinction is a possibility and I keep *The Zombie Survival Guide* by Max Brooks as a ready reference.

Max has some good advice, some of which might apply to the CoS and some Scientologists, or at least as represented by some militant anti Scientologists.

*Top 10 Lessons For Surviving A Zombie Attack”

1. Organize before they rise!
2. They feel no fear, why should you?
3. Use your head: cut theirs off.
4. Blades don’t need reloading.
5. Ideal protection = tight clothes and short hair.
6. Get up the staircase, then destroy it.
7. Get out of the car, get onto the bike.
8. Keep moving, keep low, keep quiet, keep alert!
9. No place is safe, only safer.
10. The Zombie might be gone, but the threat lives on.

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